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| Bigbadbootydaddy Posts: 1112 ![]() Joined: 2005-05-05 User Profile |
Originally written by Broxtah on 2005-11-16 5:46 PM
"WHO NEEDS MARBURY? PSSSSH THATS A STUPID TRADE IF YOU ASK ME HOW MANY ROSTERS ARE THERE? 15? STACK IT UP WITH 4 POINT GUARDS? YEAH THATS PRETTY SMART.. ANYWAYS BACK TO A MUCH IMPORTANT SUBJECT.... CAN I HEAR A ******?
THATS RIGHT I WON THIS BET JUST AS I SAID B4 SPURS AS THE NBA CHAMP IT HAPPENED AGAIN................"RAPTORS WON THEIR FIRST GAME" HAHAHAHHAH
HELLO ATLANTA AND HELLO BROXTAH.. HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH CMON SAY IT DONT BE SHY!
Originally written by alvarez_bobby on 2005-11-16 4:36 PM
Yeah...I heard some rumblings about that trade rumour. I think Toronto would definitely benefit from a trade like this. Hopefully it happens before Atlanta wins a game, so BBD can obtain bragging rightsjalen rose for stephon marbury? | ||
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| alvarez_bobby Posts: 4309 ![]() Joined: 2005-05-04 Location: Mission, BC User Profile |
GOODBYE ALVIN WILLIAMS? The Toronto Raptors signed veteran free agent Darrick Martin on Wednesday to be their third point guard. The 5-foot-11, 170-pound Martin has played 10 seasons in the NBA with Minnesota, Vancouver, Sacramento, Dallas, and the Los Angeles Clippers. The 34-year-old Martin averaged 3.8 points, 2.5 assists and 17.3 minutes in 11 games with the Clippers last season. Martin also played 30 games with the Michigan Mayhem of the Continental Basketball Association, averaging 15.8 points and 7.1 assists. "He gives us insurance at the point guard position and will help our younger players develop," general manager Rob Babcock said. Alvin Williams was expected to be Toronto's third point guard, but has played in just one game this season after undergoing microfracture surgery on his right knee last year. <!--startclickprintexclude--> | ||
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
Originally written by alvarez_bobby on 2005-11-16 4:36 PM
Yeah...I heard some rumblings about that trade rumour. I think Toronto would definitely benefit from a trade like this. Hopefully it happens before Atlanta wins a game, so BBD can obtain bragging rightsjalen rose for stephon marbury? | ||
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| tobi Posts: 268 ![]() Joined: 2002-09-24 Location: toronto User Profile |
oo ba! sama pa si araujo, woods, eric-alvin-aaron williams, pape sow | ||
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| alvarez_bobby Posts: 4309 ![]() Joined: 2005-05-04 Location: Mission, BC User Profile |
jalen rose for stephon marbury?
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| Bigbadbootydaddy Posts: 1112 ![]() Joined: 2005-05-05 User Profile |
Originally written by Broxtah on 2005-11-16 4:22 PM
Any bets on who is going to win their first game first? Atlanta or Toronto?
I'll raise one medium double-double on Atlanta.
Ill take your bet , its not like i want the coffee lets just say bragging rights?? im with toronto
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
Any bets on who is going to win their first game first? Atlanta or Toronto? I'll raise one medium double-double on Atlanta. | ||
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| freelancer This accout has been deleted |
buhay pa, basta mero lang mapost,hehehe... i think that there should be an age limit in the nba. if u have the talent then a few years can't hurt you, heck it might even help you. i don't really have anything else to say 'bout that 'cept the fact that everything runs around money, especially in... now that it's october, the new nba season is about to start..so does anyone has any predictions? me, i think that the spurs will probably repeat, they only got better in the offseason w/the addition of finley and van exel..but i'll be rooting for the rockets even w/that prediction... [Edited by freelancer on 2005-10-09 2:37 PM] | ||
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
Huge Trade: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2122976 Holy craziness. Gotta wonder how this is going to pan out for Miami. Looks good on paper, but will the chemistry still be there. I wonder if Antoine Walker will concede his untimely and whack shot selection to the real go-to guys on the team, Shaq and Wade? J. Williams in the East...and on Miami...could get really interesting...yikes, I'm starting to fret. | ||
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| hoypinoy This accout has been deleted |
This was the question asked to Jermaine O'Neal, To para-phrase it: "Is it because you guys are black that the league is trying to put an age limit on the draft?" Now with that being said, race definitely is an issue. But it's not racism in a way that there is a driven purpose to segregate blacks coming into the league. Although, it can be a race issue because 100% of those highschoolers are black, but I don't think pulling the race card is really the true issue at hand, it's all about the NBA setting the tone. Yes, there are some racial undertone in the U.S., but it can also affect the ballers from Europe, and most of them are white. It's the plain fact that the NBA is a business. They're just setting a standard. "If it ain't broke, why fix it".. yes yes, we've all heard that... but Maintenance is the best way of preventing something from breaking down. I just see Stern as 'maintaining the league'. | ||
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
Originally written by VGFC on 2005-04-13 8:13 PM
there must be accountability for the actions of both the nba TEAMS (not the nba!) and the prospects...if they choose to draft a young guy and if they choose to skip college....
Great take.
Personally, I don't feel sorry for those FEW players who decide to skip college and declare themselves for the NBA draft. If they make it, and succeed in garnering an NBA contract, then good for them. No sane person would turn down a million dollars if someone offered it to them due to the fact they didn't have their life straight....I know I wouldn't! If they don't succeed in the pros, or go un-drafted, they can still go to college. Go get a student loan like the rest of us, and apply to a junior college. If he's a good enough player, there is still a chance in making it somewhere professionally. If not, hey, at least he's in school like he should be. If the NBA franchises want to take a chance on the next LeBron, Kobe, KG, or Amare Stoudamire, then let them. They are in a professional business, they can invest where they want. If I were a GM, I'd first do my research, then take my chances and probably opt for a potential star, than sign a fading veteran on his last legs. These highschoolers are moldable and teachable, and may, down the road, may make it big. Journeymen are journeymen for a reason. They may have some small impact on some team, in some kind of role, but they never became a star.
On the flipside of things, I do see the argument that The NBA should be socially responsible and promote education to these kids. It would help boost the level of college play, and most potential NBA'ers may benefit from a maturity standpoint, mentally and physically.
The funny thing I found about Jermaine O'Neal's statement, was when he said, "You don't hear about it in baseball or hockey. To say you have to be 20, 21 to get in the league, it's unconstitutional. If I can go to the U.S. Army and fight the war at 18 why can't you play basketball for 48 minutes?"
--- First of all, maybe I'm ignorant because I'm Canadian, but since when was being allowed to play in the NBA part of the US constitution? Secondly, why use the example of fighting for the army in war, when he wouldn't even think about signing up for the military himself??? Maybe he actually SHOULD go sign up and fight in Iraq, before he blurts that nonsense out. That's such a teen-like argument. Hmmm....maybe some time in college might have helped? lol | ||
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| niko This accout has been deleted |
nba should institute a farm league, so those 'raw' players get sent there and doesn't occupy roster spot which could be used to sign a serviceable journeyman/veteran. they could get their 'seasoning' there as well. i'm all for 'no age-limit' side as long as the players can play, but if they're not ready and throwing their hat in the draft, it poses as a prob to the league. a lot of veteran/journeyman players are getting bumped off the roster in place of raw/inexperienced rookies which can't play, which is getting more common now. | ||
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| VGFC This accout has been deleted |
if you're good...you're good and you deserve to play at the highest level and get the big bucks.... there must be accountability for the actions of both the nba TEAMS (not the nba!) and the prospects...if they choose to draft a young guy and if they choose to skip college.... the only thing I can foresee that this age limit will do is prohibit a currently dominant team with a very low draft pick from picking a very young unproven guy based on potential..and down the road...this player will turn out to be better than the top picks of that same draft.....seems like just the rich getting richer and will defeat the purpose of the draft lottery.... race? who knows...doesn't seem likely..but still possible...as fans..do we care? we just want to see ballers play... | ||
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| flipx Posts: 8868 ![]() Joined: 2002-06-17 Location: That house down the street, 3rd rock from the sun User Profile |
By setting an age limit, I think Stern is looking far into the future in his consideration. I mean, we've got some high school talent successes (Garnett, McGrady, LBJ, etc.), but the thing with them is that they've at least finished high school. If high schoolers think they can get a free pass and skip out before they graduate...I think that may be a next step some of these kids may take. And just like hoypinoy said, it's much better that they get more proper coaching and conditioning while in college. LBJ I'd say is the exception to the norm...he's fit in quite nicely to the likes of the NBA style of play. | ||
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| hoypinoy This accout has been deleted |
“I think this is an ageism issue.” No doubt. Tru, and nuff said. After all the negative publicity that has been going around on the NBA these days, Stern is probably looking forward in terms of the league’s reputation in the future. Age and (maybe even) education is the issue along with the money in guaranteed contracts. Stern probably wants to get rid of the ‘spoiled lil brat’ stereotype that the NBA is gaining, and drafting kids straight outta highschool doesn’t help with that reputation. Especially with all the generalization that is going on in the media about the NBA and it's players; going back to the ‘spoiled lil brat’ stereotype. That might be one angle of looking at the issue. | ||
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
Hoypinoy: Good take on this. I agree with you that this is not a race issue at all. I doubt David Stern and the NBA are racists considering the greater majority of players are black. Yes, race is involved. Most (not all) of the kids that come out of highschool to the NBA are black. But how racism is involved within this issue is beyond me. I think this is an ageism issue. You have some valid points on the college thing, but, to play devil's advocate, how about the fact that many of the NBA superstars today, and most marketable players were highschoolers that made the jump to the pros? The NBA takes pride (and make huge dividends) in marketing Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Amare Stoudamire, and LeBron James. Isn't it somewhat hypocritical of the NBA to now say...no more? So, from an NBA marketing aspect, I don't understand how this can help. Not all-americans become stars in the NBA. Not all 4 year college grads do either. It's pretty much 'hit and miss'. Seems like the trend is Highschool to Pro superstars and talented European players creating the face of the league. [Edited by Broxtah on 2005-04-13 2:04 PM] | ||
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| hoypinoy This accout has been deleted |
I don't know where Jermaine O'Neal was going with the whole race card issue. I don't think race is an issue with raising the age limit. Think about it, it's marketing purposes. Having a higher age limit will force the kids to turn to the College ranks. Is there anything better than the NCAA to promote the future of the NBA? Not at all. Having high school kids come out can be an amazing thing for all people closely related in anyway. But having an All-Star, all american come out of College not only betters the reputation of the school they came from, but the previous television exposure already catapults those top notch players to stardom. The NBA can feed off that momentum created byy the existing televsion deals. | ||
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2035132 Any thoughts to Jermaine O'Neal's playing of the 'race card' in his thoughts about why David Stern and the NBA want to raise the NBA age limit to 20? | ||
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| niko This accout has been deleted |
don't get ur hopes too high on the draft guys, as portland/ny/atlanta/no/charlotte are doing a pretty good job at tanking their season... our most realistic position in the draft is at #8 (unless kobe decides not to play and lakers lose all games or we win our remaining games which i highly doubt)... we should all pray that philly drops out of the playoff picture, since our team is eligible to get their 1st round pick next draft. but damn, cleveron james isn't helping much... | ||
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| Dirty_Sanchez This accout has been deleted |
Seems like you dont know what youre talking about, THEY DONT NEED ANOTHER POINT GUARD... THEY NEED BIG PHYSICAL GUYS THAT CAN DO SOME DAMAGE ON THE BOARD AND BANG PEOPLE INSIDE... THATS WHAT THE RAPTORS NEED.... | ||
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| Uniqual This accout has been deleted |
I SAID SO ... | ||
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| flipx Posts: 8868 ![]() Joined: 2002-06-17 Location: That house down the street, 3rd rock from the sun User Profile |
I know eh Brox? Those Illi kids just don't quit. Couldn't have asked for a better Final :) But yah...May's got some skills. I'm just imagining him if he gets in slightly better shape...gets ripped, ya know? | ||
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| Broxtah Posts: 1869 ![]() Joined: 2001-11-30 Location: Limbo User Profile |
That was a great game. Just when it looked like they were gonna get blown out, Illinois made an amazing run in the 2nd half. UNC just got it done when it mattered. I'm not a big fan of his, but Sean May was unstoppable last night. Felton hit some huge shots as well. There's probably 4 or 5 players that'll most likely make it to the NBA. My favorite is McCants. He's going to be a really good 2-guard in the pros...reminds me of Ray Allen. ------- In the NBA East...looks like that Indiana-Detroit first round matchup won't happen. They;re hot right now and moved up a seed, while Cleveland is crashing bigtime. Then there's a 3 team race for the 8th and final playoff spot (Philly, New Jersey, and Orlando). Plus, Cleveland has a chance of blowing this entirely because those 3 teams are only 2-3 games back. Sorry Raptor fans...looks like another lottery-draft year. Where do they start with their needs??? | ||
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| Uniqual This accout has been deleted |
big Maurice Ager fan here hope he plays for toronto but I think UNC will take it all the way.. Sean May ( Another player who i want to be in a raptor uniform ) and Jawad Williams is too much for the opposing team. | ||
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